2021

“平常”这个词很打动人，因为只有当日常被打破，才会让人觉得怀念和珍惜。从任何方面来看，“十万个为什么”专辑发行和巡演都很不“平常”：第一次尝试线上音乐会“五千个在哪里”，隔了四年才发布的尼泊尔之行纪录片《七千里又怎样》，以及充满未知的全国巡演。在变幻莫测的背景中，惘闻依然遵循着“两年一张专辑、一次大规模全国巡演”的自我约定，有着以恒定对抗混乱、不变应万变的意味。这篇发生在2021年的访谈，记录了乐队在特殊时期的一次巡演经历。

The concept of "normalcy" often strikes a deep chord with many, as it's typically during disruptions to our

routine that we truly come to appreciate and yearn for the familiar. In a multitude of ways, the launch and

tour of the album "100,000 Whys" diverged significantly from the expected norm. This period marked the band's

first foray into hosting an online concert, appropriately named "Five Thousand Wheres", which also saw the

debut of their documentary "Seven Thousand Hows". This film chronicled their return to Nepal after a four-year

hiatus, and the band's ensuing tour across the nation which was filled with unexpected surprises and

challenges. However, even in the face of such unpredictability, Wang Wen maintained their tradition of

launching an album every two years and accompanying it with an expansive national tour. Their resilience in

adhering to this pace, despite the upheavals, had encapsulated their commitment to preserving constancy in

摄影：林源森

“这是惘闻时间拉的最长的新专辑巡演了，因为疫情我们补上了去年取消掉的演出，感谢北京两场所有到来的朋友。btw.想到一个新的slogan，Let’s make China normal again. ”

"This tour for our new album has been the longest yet for Wang Wen, due to the pandemic. We've successfully

made up for last year's cancelled concerts, and for that, I'd like to extend my heartfelt appreciation to all

make China normal again.'"

——惘闻 2021年5月4日

在南京喝脸这么大的朝日啤酒

Enjoying a large Asahi beer in Nanjing

Q：回望这次因为延期、历时半年才完成的“十万个为什么”发行巡演，你们现在有什么新的感受吗？

Q: Looking back on the "100,000 Whys" album release tour, which lasted half a year due to various delays, how

A：对惘闻来说，这算是时间拉的最长的一次专辑巡演了吧。处在所谓的“后疫情”时代，能感觉到大家都在和各种困难和不确定因素抗争，我们不可能再回到疫情前的时代了。那就打起精神，使出比以往更多的力气，花费更多的精力去面对现在和未知的未来吧。

A: For Wang Wen, this undoubtedly stood as our lengthiest tour for an album. We're currently living in what

might be referred to as a "post-pandemic" era, a time filled with trials and uncertainties. The era before the

pandemic feels like a far-off memory now, so we've doubled down, and decided to place more of our effort and

energy than ever into confronting the present and the unforeseeable future.

在无锡和老朋友喝午茶

Enjoy tea time with an old friend in Wuxi.

Q：后半程巡演途中为了去到不同城市，乐队做了三、四次核酸检测，也有很多站次延期，第一次出现“人在路上，随机应变”的出行方式。这种不确定和未知感对你们当时的心态有影响吗？

Q: During the later part of the tour, the band had to undergo several nucleic acid tests to travel between

cities, and numerous tour dates were postponed. Given the unusual nature of this tour, did this period of

uncertainty affect your mental state?

A：没有什么影响，在现在这种状况下，中国的乐队还能演出或者巡演，已经是非常幸运了。大部分国外的乐队至今还没有恢复正常的演出，他们面对的压力和困难比我们大的太多了。所以不管巡演途中遭遇什么变故大家都觉得没什么大不了的，竭尽所能吧。

A: Not in the slightest. Given the current circumstances, it's rather fortunate that bands in China can still

perform and tour around. Most foreign bands are still unable to resume their normal performance schedules due

to the significant challenges and pressures they face. Hence, we refrain from complaining, regardless of the

obstacles we encounter during the tour. Instead, we just give it our all, and hope for the best.

到达合肥后才接到演出临时无法举办的通知，和空空如也的场地合照了一张。

Once we arrived in Hefei, we received news that our performance had been temporarily postponed. So, we took

a group picture with the vacant venue as a backdrop.

Q：相较于之前每次密集的巡演，这次巡演因为大量“不确定”，导致整体时间安排上感觉会松散一些。这样的巡演节奏乐队成员感受如何？巡演期间休整的日子通常会做些什么？

Q: Compared to your previous tours, this one seemed more laid-back due to all the "uncertainties". How did

the band members deal with this change? What do you usually do during the rest of the tour?

A：我们更喜欢密集的巡演，紧绷的节奏更容易让我们保持一种习惯的演出状态，惯性击穿了疲劳感。反而中途有些天连续没有演出的日子大家很容易陷入一种四肢瘫软的委顿状态。所以这些所谓的休息日大部分人就真的休眠了，每天和床为伴，待在房间不出去。

A: We actually have a preference for intense touring, as a packed schedule keeps us in a consistent

performance mode, and the momentum it generates helps us fight off weariness. However, when there aren't

back-to-back performances, the adrenaline wears off, and everyone just falls into a state of lethargy. On

these so-called rest days, most of us would simply sleep the day away, confined to our rooms.

拍摄阿那亚线上音乐会

Shoot "5000 Wheres" streaming shows in Aranya.

乐迷送的螺丝刀

Screwdrivers were sent to us as a gift from one of our fans.

Q：你们在天津和呼和浩特都有停留比较长的时间，这次在这两个城市有什么记忆深刻的故事吗？惘闻第一次巡演到呼和浩特，对这个城市的食物、人和城市景象有什么感受吗？

Q: You spent a significant amount of time in Tianjin and Hohhot. Do you have any memorable moments from

these cities? Considering that this was the Wang Wen's inaugural tour to Hohhot, how did you find the food,

A：天津是我的故乡，我带大家街边随便一个馆子吃饭，都夸好吃。他们对天津的早点留下了特别深刻的印象，又便宜又丰富还好吃。呼市是第一次去，第一印象就是马路特别宽，建筑也没有那么拥挤，有种难得的松弛感。在呼市恰逢最冷的几天，演出当天晚上好像是零下27度，据说是近三十五年来的最低气温。呼市的朋友又热情又能豪饮，所以乐队喝酒的几个人貌似在呼市的几天都非常收敛，和当地朋友一起吃饭展露出的都是一种文明饮酒的姿态。

A: Tianjin is my hometown. I'd guide them around, and grab a bite at any roadside eateries we happened upon.

Thankfully, everyone loved the food. The breakfast in Tianjin, in particular, was a hit, as it was affordable,

in abundance, and incredibly scrumptious. Hohhot, on the other hand, was an eye-opening experience. We were

instantly astonished by the city's spacious streets and less cluttered buildings, which provided a refreshing

sense of tranquility. We experienced some of our coldest days there, with the temperature plummeting to an

astounding -27 degrees Celsius on the night of our performance – reportedly the lowest in thirty-five years.

However, the locals in Hohhot were nothing but warm and seemed to enjoy a good drink. Those of us in the band

who drank were careful to drink responsibly during our time there, always keeping in mind to conduct ourselves

with decorum when dining with our local friends.

在蒙古包里被当地朋友好好招待了一番

We got a large meal treated by our friends.

Q：你们最近看了什么演出？有没有让你觉得很棒的演出？

Q: What performances have you watched recently? Were there any that particularly resonated with you?

A：过去的一年半，除了巡演出去了之外，一直都在大连。在赫兹看过一些演出，舌头、脏手指、法兹的现场都特别好。舌头的现场是一种力量感，脏手指像是吉普赛流浪者，法兹是一种紧绷的临界点。在线上看了一个德国乐队Apparat的现场，印象也特别深。

A: Over the past year and a half, apart from touring around, we have remained in Dalian. Though, we did catch

some performances on Hertz Space, as well as live performances of Tongue, Dirty Fingers, and FAZI, which we

felt were all rather excellent. Tongue gave an impactful performance, and Oh!Dirty Fingers' performance felt

so exotic, but FAZI's performance in particular was the most exciting one. We also watched a performance by

the German band Apparat online, which left quite an impression on us.

Q：惘闻在每次在带着新专巡演之前，也会联合调音师、灯光师一起对现场呈现的效果、以及达成效果所使用的设备进行讨论，设计出适合这张专辑的声音方案。你们对于一首作品的录音和现场呈现之间的关系是怎样看待的？《十万个为什么》这张专辑里的作品，录音和现场版有什么不同？

Q: Prior to each tour, Wang Wen will devise a sound structure tailored to the album together with the sound

and lighting engineers. How do you perceive the relationship between recording a piece in a studio and its

live rendition? Are there any differences between the recorded and live versions of the songs in "100,000

A：这方面我并没有特别的纠结，在录音室里能添加很多排练或者现场很难出现的元素，录音室作品可以做到在不同声压下都不会丢掉大部分的细节。对我自己来说，我更享受录音室里面的各种尝试。

A: I have no strong opinions on this matter. In the studio, we have the opportunity to add elements that can

be challenging to replicate during rehearsals or live performances. Studio recordings can retain the majority

of the intricate details at varying sound pressures, so personally, I appreciate the experimental nature of

而现场是一种体验式的，配合我们日常不可能体验的高分贝声压以及超低音的补充，在声音上会是一种能量式的冲击，加上灯光设计及舞台布置等在视觉上会是一种加强式的印象。现场我尽量还原很多录音室里的声音设计，这方面我们的现场调音师邓成龙做了大量的现场设计，很多我觉得很难在现场实现的细节他都想办法做到了。

总之，录音室和现场对我来说是两个体系，尽量利用到每个体系的优势就够了。

Live performances, on the other hand, are experiential. The powerful sound pressure and the deep bass notes,

which we don't usually hear in our daily lives, can make the performance a thrilling experience. This

experience can be augmented with the performance's visual impact, which is usually done through lighting

design and stage decorations. My goal is to incorporate various sound designs from the studio into our live

performances. In this regard, our live sound engineer Deng Chenglong has done an exceptional job. He's able to

highlight many details I had assumed would be difficult to execute in a live setting. In short, I view the

recording studio and live performance as two distinct environments, each with its unique strengths.

摄影:林源森

Q：在你们看来，怎样的现场是“生气勃勃”、能够吸引你的？

Q: What do you think makes a live performance lively and appealing to you?

音乐本身的吸引肯定是第一位的，这样才能比较容易的“进入”其中，然后怎样的“浸入感”要看现场综合方面的感受：音响、灯光、舞台这些。当然，身边的观众也很重要，你总不希望看现场的时候你身边的人不停地大声聊天什么的。

A: At its core, it's the music that captivates us, enabling an effortless immersion into the experience. This,

combined with a top-notch sound system, evocative lighting, and compelling stage design, results in a wholly

immersive concert environment. Moreover, the audience plays a significant role, as their shared enthusiasm

contributes to the overall atmosphere. Well, that being said, I detest loud chatters around me during live

performances, as it somewhat dampens my enjoyment of the event.

s cancelled concerts, and for that, I

s make China normal again.

惘闻《锻高潭》

拍摄&剪辑：Geek Shoot Jack

出品：Space Circle

Filmed & Edited by Geek Shoot Jack

Produced by Space Circle

巡演出发前

公路出行的方式让我们想到欧洲巡演

This mode of traveling reminded us of our tours in Europe.

惘闻《五五路》

Wang Wen “Five Five Road”

惘闻《流浪者之歌》

[2021] 《十万个为什么》全国巡演